He and his brother John (and other siblings) are now the children of "Unknown Lake." 8. 21. He died in 1437, and the fine brass memorial he ordered to be made, which shows himself and Joan, is still extant.17 By 1500 many English earls and barons were descendants of Edward III, and so were many Iberian noble families. By 1600 almost the entire English gentry were his descendants. Each Ancestor's name is followed by the volume number and page number: In addition we include newly proven lineages which are currently being accepted by royal hereditary societies: The Royal Descendants of 600 Immigrants (aka RD600) first published by Gary Boyd Roberts in 2003 with a second edition in 2006 and finally a third edition in 2008. 13. 9. Obediah is the son ofSarah (Flanders) Clement[unknownconfidence] BTW, Joe, RJ Horace, gets the credit for this line! Mary, Sir John Fitz(Fitz-23) was the son and heir of John Fitz MP, he m. Bridget Courtney the da. 9. But its not right. I had no inkling," she says. Havisia is the daughter of Mary (Ferrers) Neville http://globalfamilyreunion.com/king-richard-iii-dna I can't access that link It depends where you think one of the seemingly many NPEs occurred. Edward III (r. 1327-1377 And if someone has such a pathway, she says it's "fairly likely" they will bump into a royal relative. Susannah is the daughter of Michael Woods II [unknown confidence] Josh Widdicombe discovered he was a descendant of Edward I, who died more than 700 years ago. Surprising -- I'm descended from Edward III, through the Skinners, Talcotts, and Hollisters of Connecticut. 7. William is the son ofWilliam Knox[unknownconfidence] So now youre reading peer reviewed journals to learn about your ancestors in England mostly yeoman, husbandman, minor clerics and various tradesmen. You are probably right Trudy. Jane whom I assume was David Kennedy, 1st Earl of Cassillis. PS, is there another project related to Charlemagne? That Heslarton Neville connection was one that RJ and I were reflagged during ourvrecent review of Edward 3 descents. 14. Elizabeth is the daughter of John Savage [unknown confidence] Moses is the son ofMary Southard[confident] 10. 15. "We've all got the same number of ancestors, we just don't always know their names," she says. Elizabeth is the daughter ofDorothy (Wheatley) Bliss[unknownconfidence] Myrna is the daughter of Albert Marshall Rigg Robert is the son ofJohn Gordon[unknownconfidence] Bea - if you could also look into Edward Southworth, Thomas' supposed younger brother and his sons Constant and Thomas I'd appreciate it! 15. 18. Well harsh thing is I would like if someone could help find documents because all the information was from a family bible that Do esnt exist anymore. 11. So running the relationship finder on you, I get: 10. 4. John is the son ofAlice Harry[unknownconfidence] You start to read about your ancestors on Wikipedia. Edward III is the 21th great grandfather of Rachael. Chaos at port as thousands rush to leave Sudan, Air strikes pound Sudan capital as truce extended, Suspected IS chief killed in Syria, Turkey says. 20. John Oxenbridge of Boston, Massachusetts IV: 300; V: 395, Oxenbridge, Rev. 11. John is the son ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] 5. Andrew is the son of Katherine Gordon [unknown confidence], 11. Douglas covers the Gordon's of Lochinvar under the article about their descendants the Viscounts of Kenmure. 5. 10. Nathaniel Plummer is the son ofJesse Pearson[unknownconfidence] Archibald is the son of Beatrice Campbell [unknown confidence] 18. When is Royal Gateway Ancestor label appropriate? Alleged Royal Ancestry of Edward Southworth, Space:Gateway_Descendants_from_Edward_III, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Carolingian-77, https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Project:Edward_III_descents_past_gen_5, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:A_table_of_descendants_of_Edward_III_-_002, https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Project:Edward_III_descents_past_gen_5#King_Henry_IV_table, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Project:A_table_of_descendants_of_Edward_III, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Southard-61, : Leyden Documents Relating to the Pilgrim Fahter. 4. 14. well I can tell you are related to me as Glasscock is a surname of mine I will run just make sure! I think there may be people still trying to hold onto it by arguing about the phrasenepoti ex matre, which Hanson says proves John Bagley married a sister of Elizabeth Tomlinson and not her daughter. Elizabeth is the daughter ofJoan (Beaufort) de Neville LG[unknownconfidence] This trail tells us that Archibald is the 14th great grandfather of Beth. Thomas is the son ofJohn Southworth[unknownconfidence] The five volumes of Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson published in 2013 being the most recently published currently contains the most up-to-date research outside of journal articles published since 2013. 10. Thomas is the son ofAlice (Fitzhugh) Fiennes[unknownconfidence] Beth is the daughter of Steve Glasscock [unknown confidence] Mary is the daughter ofGregory Fiennes[confident] 8. Martha is the daughter of Dorothy (Wheatley) Bliss [unknown confidence] 14. I disconnected Jane (Reed) Niles from the parents she was attached to, so the first questionable line I posted above is now cut off. 17. Dorothy is the daughter ofMary (Fiennes) Fiens[unknownconfidence] Geni requires JavaScript! I have this guy - can I help be the Disconnectrix? but Vincent will have got it from the Visitation, so it's not independent. I watched it on my DVR last night and it was so interesting I watched it twice. 10. Royal Blood? Lineage Societies for John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident] The source I added above also explains a whole lot about the names and the confusion about them, some were translated and written in Dutch or Dutchified , so for someit's reallyhard to recognize they were the correct ones, sometimes theywere registeredwith just their patronymics, and so on so it's quite a puzzle . Being able to navigate a path back to an identifiable medieval relative often depends on finding a "gateway ancestor", says Else Churchill, a genealogist at the Society of Genealogists in London. After finding that my own [alleged] descent traces through a recognized Gateway, it dawned on me that I could check the relationship paths for my other ancestral lines to see if there are some questionable gateways to Edward. Gregory is the son ofThomas Fiennes[unknownconfidence] Elizabeth is the daughter of Hannah (Niles) Mott 6. Somerby fraud may affect some of the reported connections for people named Peck. Mary Fienes appears to be bogus; see this note about her in the profile of Dorothy (Wheatley) Bliss. Create a list of proven gateway ancestors as a tool for future research. 3. 12. Edward is the son ofHawte Wyatt[confident] WebDescendants of Edward III of England Edit Contents 1 of Edward III of England and Philippa of Haniault 2 of Prince John of Gaunt and Blanche of Lancaster 3 of Philippa of Jane is the daughter of Lucy (Heneage) Reade [ But it wasn't about being related to a medieval king. Thank you! For John to be the father of Joan, I think he'd need to have married again after his wife died in 1462. 14. Samuel is the son of Daniel McKay [unknown confidence] 16. However, Joe put a comment in the profile that based on the picture with the correct arms of Savage of Rock Savage (''six lions sable'') as well as on his tombstone, he still might be closely connected through one of the younger brothers of Sir Thomas Savage. But being a Scot and Edward I being known as the Hammer of the Scots, I wasn't absolutely over the moon.". John is the son of Edward (Plantagenet) of England [confident]. 22. Joan is the daughter of Matilda (Clifford) Sutton 10. Patrick is the son of Andrew Agnew [unknown confidence], 10. 69 (1994): 95-97. (Round 3). Joe thank you for breaking the bogus Bagley line! I'm related through, 1. But it was his sister Janet(c.1480c.1544)according to Scots Peerage v.2. Sarah is the daughter ofAnne (Lumpkin) Eldredge[unknownconfidence] Most people who can connect to a few other families on wikitree will have cousin relationships to basically everyone else on the main tree including royalty. Hannah is the daughter of Jane (Reed) Niles - this is the immigrant, and she is surely a weak link in the chain; the profile for her alleged father seems to have conflated/confused several people He has an extensive write-up by Anderson in the Great Migration Series. Please help. 7. 12. How millions don't know they're related to royalty - BBC News Agnes is the daughter ofJames Stewart[unknownconfidence] But finding the line that gets you there is the trick! It's partly the sheer numbers. Thomas Ligon is profiled on Who Do You Think You Are when they were tracing the ancestors of Courtney Cox. 12. Thomas is the son ofHelen (Langton) Southworth[unknownconfidence] On my mum I'm stuck on her great grand parents William and Isabella Grant. Jacob is the son of Nicholas Ide [confident] NCAA 23. New gateway ancestors: The Duncanson sisters of New Netherland? It is a shame we can not return a connection to uncertain, or at least to something more neutral between the options we have. Feeling more Valiant? Most populous nation: Should India rejoice or panic? Katherine is the daughter of Patrick Agnew [unknown confidence], 9. 5th ed. 12. Margaret Tudor (1489-1541) 4. Sure enough, I found two questionable gateways! Added: The PGM immigrant descendants (i.e. I would hate to see the Anne Couvent line be perpetually duplicated if it may not be correct at this de Joyeuse point. Questions raised over Queens ancestry after DNA test on Read about our approach to external linking. Nancy is the daughter ofBenjamin Knox[unknownconfidence] 2. Wallis Simpson Restating this line just so I can have the links: 1. Stranger things have happened. Ann is the daughter of Edward Sutton [unknown confidence] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.ide/120/mb.ashx 13. This trail tells us that Edward III is the, Thanks, that made my day! Christopher C. Child American Marcus is the son ofMargaret (Maxwell) Knox[unknownconfidence] Benjamin is the son ofBenjamin Franklin Wallingford[unknownconfidence] 18. VideoThe secret mine that hid the Nazis' stolen treasure, LGBT troops take love for Eurovision to front line, Why an Indian comedian is challenging fake news rules, What Europe's royals could teach King Charles. She married (1) by license George Popham (15501608) was a pioneering colonist from Maine, born in the southwestern regions of England. 2. 19. 22. I am not in a hurry at all and I appreciate your help, as well as the help of those who went before us to build these trees. 8. Elizabeth (Mott) Littlefield 4. 7. 12. Mary is the daughter ofElizabeth (Mansfield) Wilson[unknownconfidence] Elizabeth is the daughter of Philippa (Plantagenet) Mortimer It would also be nice if that app was a part of Wikitree as well. William is the son ofEleanore (Greystoke) Eure[unknownconfidence] People are increasingly turning to DNA for family links. It is well worth the time to search this book if you cant find your ancestor in Richardsons list above. England Gateway Ancestors of Proven Royal Descent Humphrey is the son ofEleanor (Holand) Touchet[unknownconfidence] But genealogists say it's much more likely than people expect, Genetics professor Turi King says we are all much more interrelated than might be recognised, Edward I could have a descendant in any street, with millions of his family alive now, Else Churchill found a surprise in her own DNA results, The secret mine that hid the Nazis' stolen treasure. Henry is the son of Elizabeth (Gallup) Stephens Beatrice is the daughter of Jane (Campbell) Mackintosh [unknown confidence] His da. 6. Hi Joe, This has been a fascinating thread! 7. How could a modern-day comedian turn out to be related to a medieval monarch? Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence]. On a recent episode of the TV genealogy show Who Do You Think You Are? James is the son of Katherine Agnew [unknown confidence] 9. 9. But -- I do not see the names on your list. 1. I appreciate it. 19. This one may be a very good line to followup on. John, of Boston, Massachusetts IV: 299, Palgrave,[Dr. Richard, of Charlestown, Massachusetts I: 512, Palmes, Anne (Humphrey), of Swansea, Massachusetts V: 358, Pelham, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, Massachusetts I: 444; III: 224; V: 357, Pelham, Herbert, of Cambridge, Massachusetts I: 444; III: 224; V: 357, Pelham, Jemima (Waldegrave), of Cambridge, Massachusetts II: 12; V: 355, Pole (or Poole), Elizabeth, of Taunton, Massachusetts V: 60, Pole (or Poole), Jane (Greene), of Dorchester and Taunton, Massachusetts III: 11; V: 60, Pole (or Poole), William, of Dorchester and Taunton, Massachusetts V: 60, Pynchon, Amy (Wyllys), of Springfield, Massachusetts V: 432, Raynsford, Edward, of Boston, Massachusetts IV: 463, Saltonstall, Elizabeth (West), of Watertown, Massachusetts IV: 551; V: 357, Saltonstall, Muriel (Gurdon), of Ipswich, Massachusetts Ill: 183; IV: 551, Saltonstall, Sir Richard, Knt., of Watertown, Massachusetts IV:551, Scott, Katherine (Marbury), of Massachusetts and Rhode Island II: 147, Shepard, Margaret (Touteville), of Massachusetts II: 683, Sherman, Mary (Launce), of Watertown, Massachusetts III: 547, Skepper, Rev. Charles is the son of Henry (Somerset) Beaufort [unknown confidence] 6. 3. 3. Yes Kirk he indeed was ;) I added the source for themarriage (image + link to the archive + transcript (also in English) to Agnes Carpenters profile now as well. Humphrey Bogart (1899-1957) 6. 16. 21. 2. Descendants of Edward III of England - Geni Using previous models of the numbers of descendants over the generations, he says as a broad estimate there could be two million people alive now related to Edward I. However, the prob. 14. Patrick is the son of James McKie [unknown confidence], 7. John is the son ofEdward (Plantagenet) of England[confident] All three of those are gateway ancestors to medieval English ancestry. He was an associate of English Colonizer Sir Ferdinando Gorges in a colonization scheme fo https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/18700092/john-oxenbridge. Joan is the daughter ofJohn Beaufort KG[unknownconfidence] She seems to have been adopted by an extra daughter, but that's not your line. Thomas is the son ofNancy (Stubblefield) Stroud[unknownconfidence] Catherine is the daughter ofJoan (Beaufort) de Neville LG[confident] 1. James is the son ofConquest Wyatt[unknownconfidence] Read about our approach to external linking. I connect through George Reade apparently. 16. Benjma Their relationship caused a constitutional crisis that ultimately led to Edwards abdication. John is the son ofJoan Janet Stewart[unknownconfidence] Charles, of Scituate and Plymouth, MA, Cooke, Elizabeth (Haynes), of Cambridge, MA, Davie, Humphrey, of Boston, MA, & Hartford, CT, Dudley, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury/Dedham, MA, Edwards, Agnes, of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Farwell, Olive (Welby), of Concord & Chelmsford, MA, Hackburne, Katherine (Deighton), of Roxbury & Dedham, MA, Harlakenden, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, MA, Harris, Agnes, of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Haugh, Elizabeth (Bulkeley), of Cambridge & Boston, MA, Hutchinson, Anne (Marbury), of Boston, MA, RI, & NY, Hutchinson, Katherine (Hamby), of Boston, MA, Ludlow, Roger, of Dorchester, MA; Windsor & Fairfield, CT, Mellowes, Martha (Bulkeley), of Charlestown, MA, Negus, Jane (Deighton) (Lugg), of Boston, MA, Palgrave, Dr. Richard, of Charlestown, MA, Pelham, Elizabeth (Bosvile), of Cambridge, MA, Pelham, Jemima (Waldegrave), of Cambridge, MA, Pole (or Poole), Elizabeth, of Taunton, MA, Pole (or Poole), William, of Dorchester & Taunton, MA, Pynchon, Amy (Wyllys/Willis), of Springfield, MA, Saltonstall, Muriel (Gurdon), of Ipswich, MA, Saltonstall, Richard, of Watertown & Ipswich, MA, Scott, Katherine (Marbury), of Massachusetts & RI, Spencer, Agnes (Harris), of Cambridge, MA and Hartford, CT, Taylor, James, Gent., of Boston & Lynn, MA, Throckmorton, John, of Salem, MA, Providence & Warwick, RI, & NJ, Torrey, [Rev.] Turi King, professor of genetics at the University of Leicester, has researched Richard III and says there are "literally millions" of people alive now who are related to the immediate family of this 15th-Century sovereign. Patrick is the son ofAndrew Agnew[unknownconfidence] 2. Joan is the daughter ofJohn (Plantagenet) of Gaunt KG[unknownconfidence] 2. I do not see any of these names on the list of gateway ancestors. Benjamin is the son ofSarah (Travers) Mash[confident] Patrick is the son of Patrick James McKie [unknown confidence] And this is the line for my mother (this one starts in colonial Connecticut): 8. 15. Its happened to all of us. The following is a complete list of all New England Gateway Ancestors of proven royal descent published by Douglas Richardson in 2013.
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